More Feedback from the Truth Movement

Dear Dr. Fetzer,

 

I would simply like to use all the available evidence from the crime scene to attempt to reconstruct the crime, which from what I read about crime scene investigations, is a critical step in discovering the truth:

 

“It is often useful to determine the actual course of a crime by limiting the possibilities that resulted in the crime scene or the physical evidence as encountered.”

http://forenzika.unist.hr/Portals/6/docs/studenti/Crime%20Scene%20Reconstruction.pdf

 

The physical evidence at the scene of the crime limits the possibilities of what could have caused it so it seems to me that by starting there a lot of time could have been saved by avoiding hypotheses that don’t fit. I would think that is where every hypothesis should begin if the truth is the goal, but it is one area most truthers brush-off, and often angrily.

 

That’s it – just an open and honest discussion of the available evidence we all have access to, not even a debate as much as collaborating on scrutinizing the evidence and using it to arrive at the best explanation for it – start to finish; a level-set for 9/11 Truth so that after 16 years genuine truth seekers who may just be scratching the surface don’t have to spend a decade poring over the same material we have. I’m sure we all think we’re right, but if any of us truly believe that, then we should welcome the opportunity to discuss it.

 

Thanks,

 

Steve De’ak

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From: Jahilliya Times

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:06 PM

To: Steve De’ak et al

Subject: Re: The Brave Truther Warrior

 

Hi Steve et al,

 

I think your dedication to solving the “crime” of 9/11 is very inspiring, especially after all these years when most of the evidence has already been destroyed at the Fresh Kills land dumb, or in it’s shipment to China, or to the Bermuda Triangle never to be seen again. I guess that’s why no criminal investigator can be bothered with any hard evidence. I really think you and other truthers should perhaps consider thinking outside the box to win over the hearts and minds of the brainwashed masses. I think your Crash Test project is a great idea because it get’s people thinking about the impossibility of planes melting like butter into steel buildings. Please would you do a mini “Crash Test for dummies” in your back garden using a miniature small scale version of the jets and buildings, just to generate interest, and then put it on your YouTube channel, perhaps then Jim Fetzer et al could discuss how to do it for real. I think for added drama you could have a little toy model “wicker man” to be sacrificed to the pagan sun god, as that’s what 9/11 was all about anyway – a pagan ritual sacrifice – everyone knows it, that’s why no-one is interested in 9/11 as a “crime” – other than perhaps Tony Rooke and his police buddies, but if you watch the film “The Wicker Man” you’ll know what happens to naïve police men who wonder innocently into a pagan society hoping to solve any kind of crime mystery. Sad but true, I’m afraid 🙁

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From: Mark R. Elsis

 

911 Trial

by Mark R. Elsis

http://911Trial.com

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From: James Fetzer

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:50 PM

To: Steve De’ak

Subject: Invitation to an interview on “The Real Deal”

 

Steve,

 

We can do a video interview almost anytime. We can also screen-

 

share with any photos or videos on your desktop. Let me know

 

when would work best. Wednesdays are good for me. Thanks!

 

Jim

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From:

Christopher Bollyn

 

RE: About the Brave Truther Warrior – Stephen De’ak

 

Two images

Photo: Stephen De’ak in high school, 1977

 

Image: Jewish De’ak family changes name from Deutsch to De’ak

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From: Steve De’ak
To: Christopher Bollyn et al
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: The Brave Truther Warrior

Yeah, me with hair, and the record of my family name change in the 19th century – apparently they were Dutch and emigrated to Hungary when they changed their name to a common Hungarian name as emigrants are wont to do. My mother is and both grandmothers were gentiles, but like I said, this has nothing to do with the evidence and everything to do with a chickenshit tactic by a faux truther. This is called attacking the messenger and it is used to avoid the evidence that exposes Bollyn as a lying sack of CIA shit.

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From: Christopher Bollyn
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 2:08 PM
To: Steve De’ak et al
Subject: Re: The Brave Truther Warrior

Dear Mr. Deak,Why the rude behavior and vulgar words? And you wonder why people don’t want to work with you?

You know, and I know perfectly well, that I am not lying about anything and that I have never had anything to do with the CIA. Pray tell, why would you say that? Do you have any proof to back up such an outrageous claim?

Of course you don’t.

I wrote to you long ago asking about Istvan (Deutsch) De’ak, the cellist, and your family background. He is your grandfather, the son of a Hungarian Jewish family, who changed his surname from Deutsch to De’ak. As the attached image shows, both Imre and Istvan, who changed their name, were Jewish – not Dutch. The Hungarian word “vallasa” means religion and “izr” means Israeli or Jewish. Not Dutch.

Istvan (Stephen) Deutsch (born 1897), who became De’ak, was your grandfather. His son, William Ralph De’ak, your father. William married Carol Terril, your mother. For some reason you chose not to respond to my question, but have carried on writing to me.

http://www.cello.org/cnc/deak.htm

Stephen De’ak, Cellist – INTERNET CELLO SOCIETY
www.cello.org
Stephen De’ak. Stephen De’ak was born in Hungary in 1897, and died in California in 1975. He grew up in a musical family, his brother and sister playing violin, and …

Mr. De’ak, I have not said anything mean about you. I simply added some photos of you and your family to the thread about the “Brave Truther Warrior”, which I assumed was you. You then attacked me, with very unkind words, as a liar.

Mr. De’ak, for the benefit of the group involved in this email, please tell me where I have lied. If you cannot show us where I have lied, you should apologize for your allegation that I have.

In truth,

Christopher Bollyn

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From: Steve De’ak
To: Christopher Bollyn et al
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: The Brave Truther Warrior

Why the blatant attempt to avoid an honest discussion?Golly, someone might consider your fixation with identifying my whole family as some sort of threat, that and a transparent attempt to continue the coverup. The goals of the truth movement are apparently to avoid discussing the evidence that can lead to the truth and to discredit truthers as “anti Semites” in the eyes of the brainwashed Western masses we need to reach if we ever hope to stop the wars.

You have already been exposed for spreading lies about Shanksville, so tell me again why you won’t correct the record? Tell me how the Jews caused the gash at Shanksville, mister “well-traveled journalist?”

If I was concerned about my identity being known, I might have hidden my personal information from my DNS registrations, or used an alias or had someone else produce my videos – but I believe what I say when I say I want to leave the world a better place, and that means speaking the truth even in the face of apparent threats.

Steve De’ak
509-310-3189

From: Christopher Bollyn
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:39 AM
To: Steve De’ak et al
Subject: Unsubscribe me from this list

Please remove my name from this email thread.

Thank you.

Christopher Bollyn

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From: Steve De’ak
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:47 AM
To: Christopher Bollyn et al’
Subject: RE: Unsubscribe me from this list

What? You don’t want to correct your Shanksville lie and accept my public apology first?

You sure you don’t want to list more of my personal details before you go?

Steve

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From: Christopher Bollyn
To: Steve De’ak et al
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list

Dear Mr. De’ak,

No, thank you, I just want to unsubscribe from the list.

Christopher Bollyn

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From: Jahilliya Times
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:24 AM
To: Christopher Bollyn et al
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list

Christopher, how dare you! How dare you, even dare to ask to be unsubscribed from this e-mail list! You can never unsubscribe from the truth just to please your delusional cognitive dissonance self! I was ashamed by your recent attempt to side-track the conversation in a way that only a luciferian minion would do – by digging up the Jewish roots of Steve De’ak. This is very rich coming from a guy who married an Israeli woman! It’s a very pathetic attempt by you to muddy the waters of truth. But what was even more horrifying to watch was your little recent luciferian ‘truther’ show in Detroit, with well-known pseudo Muslim luciferians like ‘Nation of Islam’s’ Farrakhan and Kevin Barrett. If you’re going to have a luciferian love-feast with such fake truthers, then please don’t do it under the name of Islam. Most Muslims know when they are being used to sell the luciferian agenda. Farrakhan is a racist bigot – was he the one who taught you do be an anti-Jewish shill for the New World Order, or was it just your egotistical self?

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From: James Fetzer
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:36 AM
To: Jahilliya Times et al
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list

JT,

You have gone way over the top (off the cliff, into the pit). Christopher did a brilliant job of exposing the forces behind 9/11 and, while I regard Gage as running a limited hangout and Kevin as a bit of a religious zealot, their symposium was reaching an audience that we would ordinarily be inaccessible. You should applaud their efforts, not condemn them. It was a powerful presentation, where Christopher was sensational! Give credit when due.

Jim

P.S. This thread seems to have eclipsed my response to Ian Greenhalgh, who claimed that my interviewing Steve would be one disinfo op interviewing another, which was this:

Of course, Ian Greenhalgh–whom I called out as an op long, long ago–offers no evidence at all for his absurd proposition. I have done thousands of interviews and published about a dozen books exposing governmental complicity in JFK, 9/11, the death of Paul Wellstone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, the moon landing, the first death of Saddam Hussein, the second death of Osama bin Laden, Orlando, Dallas and more (including the Holocaust). If I am an op, I must be the worst in history. It never ceases to astound me that blatant frauds like this guy think anyone still takes them seriously when they are so obvious.

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From: Jahilliya Times
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:48 AM
To: James Fetzer et al
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list – No, everyone keep e-mailing Chris Bollyn until he melts!

Jim, I bet that you would make a great “sleeping beauty” in the next Disney movie – with your ‘logical’ thinking that a poisoned luciferian Bollyn apple is totally harmless. I’d rather have the truth and nothing but the truth thank-you very much.

p.s. I did a bit of research on Bollyn’s anti-Semitic family tree and he is indeed evolved from a luciferian ape and an intellectually challenged sea monkey!

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From: Steve De’ak
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:45 AM
To: ‘James Fetzer et al ;

All – everyone needs remember JT is a satirist at heart – never forget that! 😉

Steve

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From: Ian Greenhalgh
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:56 AM
To: James Fetzer et al

Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list

We all know Bollyn is an Israeli disinfo asset, so Fetzer defending him indicates who his masters are.

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From: Steve De’ak
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:03 PM
To: ‘Ian Greenhalgh’ et al
Subject: RE: Unsubscribe me from this list

This is getting kind of confusing.

Here’s an idea, why don’t we see what the evidence indicates? Maybe by scrutinizing those clues that have been ignored for 15 years we can clear up the question of which hypothesis has merit and which may be disinfo.

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From: François Sebesi
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:07 AM
To: Ian Greenhalgh et al
Subject: Re: 911 Trial

Pour ma part, j’observe que Ian est soit complétement parano… parce que incompétent … ce qui le rend parfaitement incapable de comprendre de quoi parle Steve et tous les autres…
…Soit complétement engagé à servir une autre cause que celle qu’il prétend défendre…

Ce qui est curieux à observer dans sa démarche, c’est son caractère totalement contradictoire avec celui de toute démarche scientifique …

En matière de science … rien , ni personne n’est jamais empêché de chercher… de parler… d’expérimenter… et d’argumenter…

Il y a toutes sortes de gens qui pensent pouvoir échapper à cette démarche de liberté et de rigueur… que impose ces principes fondamentaux à toutes démarches se revendiquant de la science …

Tous ceux qui se contentent d’insultes en guise d’arguments et de démonstration se discréditent tout seul aux yeux de tous les autres…
… qui les regardent …sans rien dire!

Amitiés à tous les libres chercheurs !!!
Mes inquiétudes pour l’avenir de tous les autres…

Courtesy Google Translate:

For my part, I observe that Ian is either completely paranoid … because incompetent … which makes him perfectly incapable of understanding what Steve and all the others are talking about …
… Either fully committed to serve another cause than that which he claims to defend …

What is curious to observe in its approach is its character completely contradictory to that of any scientific process …

In science … nothing, nobody is ever prevented from seeking … to speak … to experiment … and to argue …

There are all sorts of people who think they can escape from this step of freedom and rigor … that imposes these fundamental principles on all the claims of science …

All those who content themselves with insults as arguments and demonstration discredit themselves in the eyes of all the others …
… who look at them … without saying anything!

Friendships to all free researchers !!!
My concerns for the future of all others

François Sebesi

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James Fetzer
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:13 AM

Cc: Christopher Bollyn et al
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list – No, everyone keep e-mailing Chris Bollyn until he melts!

JT,

What entitled you to be the moral conscience of the community? I would argue that Christopher Bollyn has done overwhelmingly more than you to expose the truth about 9/11, especially including who was responsible and why.
Did you even watch the NOI 9/11 Symposium? I would bet that you did not. You are entitled to your opinions, but not to impose them upon others. Since I have contributed to the NOI discussion of 9/11, I expect you to condemn me, too.

Jim

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SCHOLAR BACKS FARRAKHAN ON 9/11
MARCH 23, 2016 NOI RESEARCH ARTICLES 0

The Nation of Islam Research Group asked the distinguished scholar Dr. James Fetzer to respond to the ADL’s attack on Russell Simmons and The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. The ADL claims that neither Bro. Russell nor The Minister should ask questions about the Truth of 9/11. So, who better than a former U.S. Marine, professor, and founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth to examine the charge?

Dr. Fetzer, Is the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan accurately reflecting the doubts many have about 9/11? He said:
“I watched in horror that morning seeing planes fly into the Twin Towers; and afterwards, I saw the Twin Towers fall down—like a building imploding (fell right down in its own tracks). But nothing happened to Building 7 until that evening! And then Building 7 went down (40 stories high). All three Buildings went….But there were those on the scene who heard explosions! … Twenty-nine hundred (2,900) people from different parts of the world lost their lives—policemen lost their lives, firemen lost their lives, EMT[s] lost their lives; and many people died afterward just from inhaling the dust….and George Bush was in Florida in a school, reading a book to babies.”
A: Yes. How could two planes take down three buildings? WTC-7 was not hit by any plane and had no jet-fuel-initiated fires. No steel structure high-rise has ever collapsed from fire before 9/11 or after 9/11—and it did not happen on 9/11 either, where the Twin Towers now appear to have been taken out by a sophisticated arrangement or mini or micro nukes and WTC-7 by a classic controlled demolition. This was a very carefully planned event.

Q: Did Muslims commit the 9/11 crime?
A: No, 9/11 was brought to us compliments of the CIA, the Neo-Cons in the Department of Defense and the Mossad. Neither Osama nor the 19 alleged “suicide hijackers” had anything to do with it. As David Ray Griffin makes as the first point of his THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT: OMISSIONS AND DISTORTIONS, a half-dozen or more of them turned up alive and well the following day and were interviewed by UK media.
Q: Dr. Fetzer, What is the best evidence you can present that ties the Israelis directly to the 9/11 incident?
A: In “The Real Deal Ep #103 9/11: Who was responsible and why” with Denni Cimino, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR87VIaL0sw we present proof of Israeli and Zionist involvement from the security at the airports to the World Trade Center and the role of ICTS, Urban Moving Systems, Odigo Messaging Service, The New York Port Authority and many others involved in setting the 9/11 stage and carrying it out.
Q: Has your research uncovered any evidence of foreknowledge by anyone of the 9/11 incident?
Yes: the Gomel Chesed Cemetery incident and the warning given to [San Francisco mayor] Willie Brown by [national security adviser] Condoleezza Rice (that he should not fly on 9/11) are only a few. An elderly woman from Brooklyn called me years ago and told me that her Rabbi had warned the members of the synagogue not to go into lower Manhattan that day. For more, see “Israel did 9/11: All the proof in the world”, http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=5367.0
Q: Is the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan accurately presenting the facts when he said:
[Paul] Wolfowitz had 10 years, now, to plan how they’re gonna clean out The Middle East and take over those Muslim nations. They needed another “Pearl Harbor”: They needed some event, that was cataclysmic, that would make the American people “Rise Up!” ready for war. So they plotted, for 10 years—this “Project For A New America Century”: [They] tried to put it in the Clinton Administration. [Bill] Clinton refused. But George W. Bush was agreeable. In those 10 years, they plotted a false-flag operation…
A: Yes. The plan appears to have originated in the fertile mind of Benjamin Netanyahu, who wanted to devise a plan to draw the United States into a war with the Arab nations that served as a counter-balance to Israel’s domination of the Middle East. He held a conference in Jerusalem and published TERRORISM: HOW THE WEST CAN WIN (1987) before the word was in common use. PNAC was the think tank to formulate how it could be done.
Q: What is the motive of the 9/11 perpetrators?
A: To transform American foreign policy from one in which, at least officially, the US never attacked any nation that had not attacked us first to one in which we became the world’s greatest aggressor nation—and at the same time to introduce legislation (The PATRIOT ACT) that would reorganize the government along the lines of a fascist, military state. The US has turned into a national security surveillance state as a consequence of 9/11.
Q: What are the implications, from your perspective, if the American/world public comes to believe that Israel was involved (planned and carried out) the 9/11 attacks?
A: Americans are very gullible and believe what they are told by the government and the mass media. Israel possesses a massive stockpile of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction, which are undeclared . US guidelines preclude sending foreign aid to a nation with undeclared WMDs. The realization that Israel nuked the US on 9/11 might bring about a change in the public’s attitude and diminish our unqualified support for Israel.
Q: Dr. Fetzer, The ADL has been particularly vicious in labeling “anti-Semites” all those who press for answers—including yourself and The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. What is their motive and how do you see the ADL’s role in this 9/11 tragedy?
A: The ADL has been doing its best to abuse its position by attacking those of us who are doing what we can to bring the truth to the American people and to the world more generally. I was among four “Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists” the ADL attacked. Ironically, the passages cited from my article, “Is 9/11 research ‘anti-Semitic’?”, demonstrated that there was nothing anti-Semitic about 9/11 research.
Thank you.
Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality. A magna cum laude graduate of Princeton who majored in philosophy, he earned his Ph.D. in the history and philosophy of science. He has received many awards and forms of recognition for his teaching and scholarship.
McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, he has also conducted extensive research into the assassination of JFK, the events of 9/11, and the plane crash that killed US Sen. Paul Wellstone. The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, he has authored The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), Render Unto Darwin (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).
His latest, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook (2015) and And Nobody Died in Boston, Either (2016), are available at http://moonrockbooks.com. His radio show, “The Real Deal”, has now gone video with MBC, M/W/F from 8-10 PM/ET. He also does “The Raw Deal” on renseradio.com T/Th from 8-9 PM/ET. For more on his research, see “James Henry Fetzer – Wikipedia the free encyclopedia BUSTED!”

Archives for “The Real Deal” (video):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist…
Archives for “The Raw Deal” (audio):
http://renseradioarchives.com/rawdeal/
Link to blog: jamesfetzer.blogspot.com

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From: Jahilliya Times
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:57 AM
To: James Fetzer et al

Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list – No, everyone keep e-mailing Chris Bollyn until he melts!

Yes Jim, there is life in your NOI ‘truther’ Detroit show, but not as we know it. I am indeed only expressing my opinion that Farrakhan is a boring racist bigot – even the devil speaks the truth now and then but I’m not ever going to kiss his big Baphomet butt like many Freemasons do. Will you now condemn me for wishing only the best of the best for my truther team? I hope your next truther presentation will be endorsed by only the purest of the pure saintly people. Who needs a gangsta gold-wearing pseudo-Muslim racist bigot anyway? I know Jim that you are only trying to ignite your long-lasting ‘dynamic duo’ relationship with Kevin Barrett, but a true friend will always speak the truth and tell his friend when he is being a luciferian minion for the N.W.O!

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From: James Fetzer
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:50 PM
To: Jahilliya Times et al
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list – No, everyone keep e-mailing Chris Bollyn until he melts!

JT,

Disappointing when you can’t admit you are wrong, even when it’s obvious.

I am not making amends with anyone, only praising praiseworthy efforts and

attempting to maintain objectivity in matters both important and controversial.

Jim

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From: Jahilliya Times [mailto:jahilliya@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 3:31 PM
To: James Fetzer
Cc: Christopher Bollyn; Steve De’ak; Steve De’ak; Ian Greenhalgh; John Kaminski; Mark R. Elsis | Lovearth.net; Simon Shack; WingMan; Kevin Barrett; Gordon Duff; 911 Reynolds Morgan; David Griscom; Editor; AIA Richard Gage; Dean Hartwell; Alexander Baker; Wingedman; J. Speer Williams; Ann Diener; Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez; Activistangel; Lionel Nation; Mr_emmanuel_goldstein; TONY ROOKE; François Sebesi; John Friend; Ima Fakeologist; Fred Smart
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe me from this list – No, everyone keep e-mailing Chris Bollyn until he melts!

O.K. then Jim I shall admit I’m wrong if it makes you happy.  I was wrong to ever think that Farrakhan killed the best thing that ever happened to the so-called “Nation of Islam”  – that is Malcolm X. – with his friggin’ Farrakhan ageless luciferian “mark of Cain” face. Those who kill their brothers or sisters never age because even the elements of nature refuse to touch them.

If I lived in America, I might have gone to your Detroit presentation, but I’m afraid the Nation of Islam gives Islam and truthers a bad name with their strange anti-white beliefs. It’s very odd that a KKK Trump supporter such as yourself should be mixing with a radical black nationalist group – this is comic material that even Dave Chappell couldn’t dream up – even with his Black George W. Bush material – sorry if I’ve said too much.  I used to try to listen to Farrakhan but he is soooo friggin’ boring, I literally can’t stand to listen for more than 5 minutes to his talks.  I believe that he is a KKK Trump supporter in disguise, a wolf in sheep’s clothing – to dumb down Black Americans and truthers.  That’s just my opinion mind you, so please don’t go hating on Steve De’ak.  I hope you guys finally find some common ground 🙂 Peace!

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Ok Steve,

Mais peut être que Bollyn qui avait commencé à se reconstruire quelques certitudes personnelles à partir de ses propres recherches et de sa propre compréhension de toutes ces informations contradictoires ….
… a tout simplement du mal à remettre en question … ses nouvelles certitudes…
… Nos petits cerveaux doivent trier beaucoup d’information depuis 15 ans…

Nos cerveaux sont facétieux, … aucun d’entre nous, n’est à l’abri de commettre des erreurs de logique… dans le cheminements de nos raisonnements…

Nous devons revisiter tellement de nos certitudes et de nos croyances depuis 15 ans… tout ce “révisionnisme” de nos consciences les déstabilise…

Peut être que parler “d’erreurs de bonne foi” …plutôt que de “mensonges” à propos de Bollyn …faciliterait le dialogue??

Peut être pas ? … mais ce n’est certainement pas avec des insultes en guise d’arguments que la vérité deviendra l’évidence que nous attendons tous !

François Sebesi

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From: Steve De’ak
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:25 PM
To: ‘François Sebesi’ et al
Subject: RE: 911 Trial

But maybe that Bollyn who had begun to rebuild some personal certainties from his own research and his own understanding of all this contradictory information ….
… is simply struggling to question … its new certainties …
… Our little brains have to sort out a lot of information for 15 years …

Our brains are facetious, … none of us is immune to the errors of logic … in the paths of our reasonings …

We must revisit so much of our beliefs and beliefs for 15 years … all this “revisionism” of our consciences destabilizes them …

Maybe talking about “good faith mistakes” … rather than “lies” about Bollyn … would facilitate dialogue ??

Maybe not ? … but it is certainly not with insults as arguments that the truth will become the evidence that we all expect!

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Fair enough, François,

Perhaps, or perhaps I’m not wrong. Why is my high school photograph relevant to the investigation? Why is my family heritage on the table but the evidence that can explain how 9/11 was carried out is not? My goal is to discover the truth by researching what the evidence holds but if my manner is prickly it is thanks to more than a decade of this sort of treatment. Whenever I try to discuss these particular details I can count on being ignored or on having my methods, motives, sanity and intelligence questioned, but never will they address the clues that lead me to my conclusions.

As far as Mr. Bollyn’s Shanksville deception goes, the only reason I made the video is because he makes it clear he has no intention of correcting his mistake. A real journalist would retract it, heck even I do that. Several times I have had to publicly admit I was wrong, and often not just wrong but spectacularly-wrong, and often at the top of my lungs, but because my goal is to discover the truth when I realized I was wrong I did the right thing by correcting the record and using my newfound understanding to paint a clearer picture of what happened. Because my goal is to be truthful, and not just “right” I would hate to have misled anyone by spreading false information so when I discover a mistake I try to correct it as soon as possible. The damage done to the truth by Mr. Bollyn’s mistake is there for anyone to see. Not a week goes by when I don’t hear the same false information being parroted by some truther who swears he read somewhere that the Shanksville gash preexisted 9/11, and that’s just one example of a mistake.

Like you my concern is for the future of others and I believe that begins with a foundation of truth. If Mr. Bollyn corrects his mistake I will remove the video and publish a public apology.

Sincerely,

Steve De’ak

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I’m not the only one who thinks Bollyn complains too loudly.  Maybe his Shanksville mistake is just an accident, or maybe there is some merit to the claims below, I don’t really know.  It would be quite helpful if he would simply print a correction, at least for Shanksville.

Steve

The Bollyn – Hufschmid – Murdoch “Coincidence” / Bollyn’s Claims on the R.J. Hender Show

Return to Take Our World Back! / Bollyn in Schaumburg Failed False Flag Fiasco? / A Shill’s Lot

The Bollyn Timeline

Christopher Bollyn:

• is the son of a woman who worked as governess for the Farish family and took care of the young William S. Farish III, a Pilgrims Society member and friend of the Bush family and the British royal family with a host of exotic intelligence contacts
• was an altar boy in the Episcopal Church, and went to the Middle East in 1975, including living in a kibbutz in Israel around the time of the 1976 restructuring of the Episcopal Church in Jerusalem
• married an Israeli military intelligence officer in an arrangement that provided her with US citizenship in 1983, when she wanted to live in Santa Monica within three miles of the Rand Corporation, within a year of Israel lobbyist Steven J. Rosen having had secret industrial security clearance to CIA contracts at the Rand Corporation, and thereby probably at a time when other agents of Israel had access to classified material there or were attempting to gain access
• met billionaire Zionist media mogul Rupert Murdoch and his family around 1988, skiing with them for half an hour, when Murdoch’s second wife (from 1967-1999), the mother of James Murdoch, was Anna Torv from Estonia
• married again in 1995 following the marriage of convenience that lasted for two years, this time to Helje Kaskel who was born and educated in Estonia
• tracked anti-Zionist, nationalist author and writer for The Spotlight Michael Piper in 1994 and 1997 whilst working together with Helje Kaskel
• worked for IBM Global Network Services, IBM and the Watson family being heavily represented in the Pilgrims Society
• was brought to The Spotlight in 2000 by Jerry Myers, a self-described Khazar (the Neanderthal-Caucasoid tribe from which Ashkenazi so-called “Jews” are descended)
• was in New York City on 9/11, one year into his new career as a “journalist”
• collaborated for years – from 2002 to 2007 – with Eric Hufschmid, whose half-sister Kathryn, a public relations executive, is Director of Strategy & Communications at the Clinton Foundation’s Clinton Climate Initiative, and in 2000 married James Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch’s son and heir apparent who joined News Corporation in 1996 and was placed in charge of its internet operations
• is evidently “protected at the highest levels” and was “visited regularly by an individual or individuals bearing license plates that cannot be traced“
• dialled 911 to call the police out to his home on some pretext about a “suspicious” car and then became belligerent in order to get himself arrested and Tasered in August 2006, serving to present himself as a “target” of the crooked elite who evidently promote and protect him
• frequently lies, e.g. alleges he was told to “drink from the toilet” after he got himself arrested, “the Liberty Lobby” (publisher of The Spotlight and forerunner of American Free Press) “is actually owned and controlled by a Zionist Jew named Mark Lane”, and Michael Piper has been “attacking” him “since December 2001”
• makes allegations and conducts a fear and smear campaign against anti-Zionists based on demonstrably deliberate lies (see above link about Mark Lane, who was described as “anti-Zionist” in a 1983 book co-authored by Zionist Jew Steven J. Rosen)
• has a reputation for writing 9/11 stories that often turn out to be turkeys
• has a tendency to visit Switzerland that is more consistent with a courier for clients of Swiss banks than a researcher, e.g. when travelling from Brussels to West / Central France, and when writing about “chemtrails over Switzerland“
• was financed by a front for Scientology who paid him for “editing” her book

http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/bollyn.htm#liar